“It’s ok not to be ok” | The Psychology of Happiness & how we are wired towards empathy.
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On this week’s episode of Stories by the Wayside, Jon speaks to a clinical psychologist, author and public speaker. In this far-reaching conversation – Jon and his guest discuss modern masculinity, what team sport can teach you about life, tips on being a better listener and getting a good night’s sleep.
This guest devotes much of his working life to ensuring people are at their best, which can be pretty challenging, when you yourself suffer from clinical depression. They discuss how